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A better NY-DC bus?

When Stef starts work in DC this fall, I expect to be traveling back and forth between New York and DC quite a bit. I will probably take the train most of the time - it's smooth, has power ports, tray tables, and ample seat space, and is less prone to traffic delays than road travel. However, it's also quite expensive. On our last trip to DC, Amtrak tickets were $111 each way.

But there's no way I'll take the bus. The Greyhound/Peter Pan buses may be cheap, but they're too uncomfortable to work on with a laptop - even though I have extra batteries and wireless Internet so I can be online along the way, there are no tray tables, and the seats are too close together, so that you has to hold a laptop practically against your chest to avoid bumping the seat ahead.

Via DCist, there's a new bus service in town, DC2NY, which will operate new "luxury" buses with free wireless Internet access on board. That probably means a technology like that used by the Google shuttles or the LimoLiner between Boston and New York, which in my experience has been flaky. But I don't need the wireless Internet so much. If having Internet just means they are trying to attract laptop users, and if that means they will make the bus more comfortable for laptop use, then it could be ideal.

Best of all, the bus stops at Dupont Circle in DC, which is just where we are planning to live. I emailed the DC2NY people to clarify whether these new buses will have tray tables, or greater seat pitch (the space distance between your seat and the one in front). The bus still will probably not equal the train in comfort - the train doesn't stop and start in traffic or bump up and down, both of which can make laptop use nauseating - but for less than half the price, if it's almost as comfortable and takes me right to our neighborhood, it could be a great option for DC-NY travel.

posted on Jul 10, 2007 3:27 pm (4 comments)

Vineyard Fast Ferry survival guide & review

For those who can't or don't want to drive, it's not easy to travel from New York to Martha's Vineyard. Other than flying, which is pricey, the Vineyard Fast Ferry, which runs between Quonset Point, RI and Oak Bluffs, MA, is an appealing alternative.

The ferry advertises convenient connections to Amtrak, and even posts schedules showing the best connections. A taxi service, Little Rest Limo, takes passengers directly between the two. Unfortunately, the connection information is misleading, often leading to frustrated passengers who miss their trains or ferries.

I've taken this route several times in the past, usually without a hitch. But yesterday, the advertised train connection was too short to realistically make, and since it was a holiday weekend, we arrived at Kingston at 1 pm having just missed the 12:41 train and every Amtrak train to New York sold out until 10:41 pm that night. Fortunately, there were a few seats available as far as New Haven, where we could take the Metro-North commuter rail to Manhattan.

Therefore, if you are thinking about taking the Vineyard Fast Ferry, here are a few tips to keep in mind.

  1. The ferry is always a little late.

    The schedule shows the trip taking an hour and a half, but this isn't true. Even when the ferry leaves right on time and doesn't encounter any difficulties, it still really takes about an hour and 45 minutes. Going to the island this isn't a big deal, except tell your family or friends picking you up to save themselves the wait and show up 15 minutes later.

    But when trying to make a train, don't expect the ferry to dock when the schedule claims. Plus, it takes time to unload the ferry, check everyone in for the vans, etc.

  2. The taxi takes longer than they say.

    The Web site says that the station is only 15 minutes from the ferry. And some of the other passengers on my trip yesterday reported that the ferry personnel were claiming the trip could be made in 15 minutes. This might be true mid-week in the middle of the day. But there are many small roads and traffic lights along the way, and often traffic. Expect the trip to take 25 minutes, or more on holiday weekends.

  3. Pick a ferry with a 1½ hour connection time.

    The ferry's site lists the best connecting train to each ferry. Most of them leave 1½ hours to connection (for example, on the mid-summer schedule, 18 out of 22 northbound trips per week give 1½ hours or more, though only 11 of 21 southbound trips do), but unfortunately, the trips most likely to be crowded, like the Friday 4:30 ferry to the Vineyard or the Sunday 10:30 or 3:30 ferries back to the mainland, have the shortest connection times. (Northbound means from NYC to the Vineyard, though the ferry really travels east and slightly south. I'm using the terminology to match their train schedules.)

    Northbound, it's not uncommon for Amtrak to run an hour late. Southbound, the vans often sit at Quonset for up to half an hour just to wait for everyone to get off the ferry and get sorted out. An hour and a half connection time is pretty safe, though not 100% safe (Amtrak is occasionally more late, and the ferry sometimes runs into trouble).

    It's okay to book a shorter connection time, but just be aware. If it's an off-peak time, like mid-week, your chance of making it with an hour connection is pretty good. Just make sure you have a contingency option (see the next tip).

  4. Northbound, leave extra connection time if you're trying to make the last ferry.

    If you go up in the morning and miss your ferry, it's not great, but not so terrible - there's a building you can wait in for the four hours until the next ferry. You should be able to get on the next ferry since capacity isn't so tightly restricted.

    But if you're on the last ferry and miss it, then you're stuck paying $100+ for a taxi to New Bedford for the ferry there.

    If your train is really late and you're on the last ferry, ask the conductor if you can pay to stay on the train one more stop to Providence, which is a lot closer to New Bedford, or even just to Boston, where you could spend the night and then take the bus in the morning. This is a last-ditch contingency, but it's much better than being stuck in the middle of nowhere in Rhode Island.

  5. Southbound, consider booking the next later train on holiday weekends.

    If your connection time is tighter and/or it's a holiday weekend, it's not that terrible to miss the train because there's another one two hours later. Almost all of the time, there's room on that train - Amtrak trains don't usually sell out. But they do on holiday weekends, and you don't want to show up at Kingston station (a small building with nothing around it) and then find out the next train has no space.

    Therefore, during the busiest weekends, I recommend booking the next train two hours later instead. If you make it in plenty of time, you can change your ticket to the earlier train. You might have to wait longer while everybody else hops on the train, but it's insurance against the worst case scenario.

  6. The ferry occasionally doesn't run in bad weather.

    The ferry goes really fast, but can't travel in really choppy water. When this happens, the Vineyard Fast Ferry company will arrange alternate transport from Quonset, but it could take a few extra hours. So decide whether you'd rather try to stay on the train to Providence and get a taxi to New Bedford (but call and make sure the New Bedford ferry is running), or if you have family or friends in Boston, to continue all the way there and take the bus to Woods Hole, which is much less weather-prone (the main ferry from Woods Hole uses huge car ferries which don't feel the waves nearly so much).

With all these contingencies, it might sound really scary to take the Vineyard Fast Ferry. It's not, and I'm going to continue using them. If you just choose ferries that have 1½ hour connection times, then you'll make the connection almost all of the time, and in the few other cases, you can simply take the next ferry or train.

Ideally, Vineyard Fast Ferry will adjust their schedule to eliminate the nasty 40-minute connection times on Saturdays and Sundays and other risky too-short connections. Or if they can't do that, they should at least recommend people book the next train to get an extra 2 hours of buffer time. Until then, consider linking to this post so that more people can find this survival guide and avoid the risk of being stranded in sleepy maritime Rhode Island.

posted on Jul 9, 2007 1:34 pm (comment)

We're going to Thailand!

I just bought tickets to Thailand for two weeks in late September/early October. Next step: picking hotels and booking intra-Asia flights.

We're flying into and out of Bangkok; our current plan is to hit Angkor Wat, Luang Prabang, Chiang Mai, and Ko Samui. Thanks to the many people who chimed in with helpful advice (and if you haven't, keep it coming - nothing is set in stone yet except the flights to and from New York).

posted on Jun 9, 2007 4:07 pm (comment)

Angkor and wat?

Stefanie and I are planning a trip to Southeast Asia in late September-early October. If any of you readers have suggestions, I'd welcome them!

We definitely want to go to Angkor Wat in Cambodia. In general we're most interested in seeing temples and other ancient structures, and communities, neighborhoods, or neat villages where people actually live. We're potentially interested in seeing the apparently spectacular beaches of Thailand as well, if it's not too rainy (apparently late fall is in the rainy season).

Other than that, I don't know much about the right places to go. What are the best towns or historical sites in Thailand to see? Are there parts of Bangkok that are worth walking around? What about the rest of Cambodia - Phnom Penh supposedly has beautiful architecture and tree-lined boulevards. Is the Tonlé Sap worth going to and safe for tourists?

Other Southeast Asian countries? We'll only have 2-3 weeks, so we'll need to pick and choose. Would it be better to go to Laos than Thailand? Comment on this post or email me with your Southeast Asian travel experiences.

posted on May 30, 2007 11:44 am (comment)

From New York to Martha's Vineyard, possibly via Warwick

Providence's T.F. Green airport is a 15 minute drive from downtown Providence, but it is directly adjacent to the Amtrak tracks where trains from New York to Boston pass every day. Imagine if there were a stop there, so train riders from the north and south could connect to flights to a variety of destinations, or rent cars to drive to the many seaside towns in Rhode Island and Cape Cod?

The State of Rhode Island has been thinking this for quite some time. For years, the T.F. Green airport Web page has said "until the Warwick station is built..." But no station had been built. Last month, Rhode Island broke ground on the station at long last. And having MBTA trains, which currently run to Providence, extended to the airport would make it easily accessible to millions from Boston and points south, relieving congestion at Logan.

But transit riders from New York and Connecticut may not be so lucky. According to the Providence Journal, Amtrak refuses to stop at the airport. Apparently, Amtrak wants the area around the station built with extra tracks so that Amtrak's trains don't get blocked behind other trains. It's not clear whether, absent the tracks, the Regional trains will still stop there, or no trains at all. Right now, Regional trains stop at many little tiny stations, like Kingston, RI, that certainly don't have four tracks.

If Regionals stop but Acela Expresses bypass the station, I can understand that - most customers are traveling between the major cities, and Amtrak needs to keep the running time as quick as possible. But if Regionals don't stop there, that is just ridiculously brain dead.

I found out about the station in the context of transferring at Providence en route from Martha's Vineyard to New York. The Vineyard is pretty easy to get to from Boston: a 1½ to 2 hour drive, or a 2 hour 20 minute bus ride, plus a 45-minute ferry. But how to get there from New York City?

Read more...

posted on Aug 10, 2006 8:26 pm (3 comments)

Four cities and a wedding

Time in New York, Martha's Vineyard, the Bay Area, and Los Angeles for Jason and Lan's wedding (third of four for the summer) constitute an eventful few weeks.
NYPD show of force Jamie on the Arabella Sails
Jamie and Erika Jamie and Erika The beach, Southern California style
Up in the chairs Mother/son dance Cutting the cake
Carrying over the threshold

posted on Aug 1, 2004 5:05 pm (comment)

Guess where I'm going

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Light Rain
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posted on Feb 22, 2004 9:14 am (comment)

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